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Michigan State University: Eli and Edythe Broad Art Museum
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This is one project I can't wait to see in person. The renderings are a bit hard to invision.
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The site of the old Paolucci Building:
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- CommentAuthorMichMatters
- CommentTimeAug 29th 2008
The site is so inconspircuous, so it will be quite a shock to see an ultra-modern building, there, but a good kind of shock. -
They're calling for ground breaking 2010 and opening 2012...no surprise, but they also said the price has risen from $40 million to $40-45 million. So at least it sounds like costs have been reined in since the shocking $160 million had been thrown around earlier.
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It hasn't been discussed in awhile, so I figured I'd chime in with the latest. The State News mentions that they still expect construction to begin in the Spring, despite not having raised the $40-45 million yet for the project. The University spokeswoman said they're "close" to having the money, but no actual numbers were given.
It appears that the design of the structure, specifically the "pleated wall," are leading to a lot of headaches in terms of practicability and cost. No shock really, considering the architects probably cared a lot more about making a showy design than substance. -
Apparently they're "close" enough to for sure start construction this Spring. The MSU Board of Trustees has approved the plan to start construction sometime this Spring according to the State News. This seems like pretty good news, considering they're making it seem like there's enough funding in place to make sure the project isn't in any real danger financially. It also appears as if project costs are in the "$40 million range" according to President Simon, and the interior plans were altered slightly to stay within budget.
What's strange is that pleated wall/roof issue doesn't appear to have been a factor in reducing the cost. The concern about this portion of the design was that the valleys in the roof design could lead to leaks, particularly in the Winter. It might look nice, but the University will be regretting making a design mistake if they have to pay for it through the nose in repair costs later on. -
- CommentAuthorMichMatters
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2009
Anyone see the most recent and more polished renderings of the museum?
Eli and Edythe Broad Art Museum - Image Gallery -
I hadn't seen these before. Thanks for sharing!
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Interesting enough, the overhead image, 4th from the bottom, shows the potential issues with the roof. There are a few areas where water could definitely gather, so there certainly needs to be something in place to help with drainage.
Other than that, I can definitely say that the design will turn a few heads. What's with the pigmented concrete though? It's also mentioned in the overhead picture, and appears to lead to a proposed plaza where the current Berkey Hall parking lot is? I've used that parking lot a few times, and I could see how staff would be irked by it being taken away. If it were eliminated, those staff members would either have to park across the street in the student services parking lot, or probably in the ramp by the union, but that's fairly far away. -
The pigmented concrete looks like it might fit shadow lines and could be really cool if it was done that way.
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- CommentAuthorMichMatters
- CommentTimeDec 17th 2009
Sparty,
I'm looking at the Berkey Hall parking lot and see nothing to hint at it being closed off. From what I can tell, cars will be able to drive over at least that part of the plaza to get to the lot, otherwise, they'd have not even rendered in the lot, at all. -
It looks to be pretty closed off to me. It looks like the entrance on the campus side will be removed and there will only be the entrance off of Grand River. There is a small section of the current parking lot that looks slated to hold benches and planters, thus removing parking spaces.
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MichMatters,
I know the rendering shows an area labeled "staff parking and loading dock," but I believe that's just a small loading dock area. As you mentioned in your post above, spaces actually start right around the area where the benches and lighting are supposed to be placed. However, they also then wrap around running parallel with Grand River in the area of the proposed plaza.
I definitely agree with you that the pigmented concrete could be really cool if done correctly. It would work perfectly with the design of the building, the roof in particular. -
- CommentAuthorMichMatters
- CommentTimeDec 18th 2009 edited
I was only looking at the entrance from Grand River, my only point continuing to be that if they had closed off the lot, it wouldn't be rendered into the image. -
Sorry Mich, I didn't catch that it was you posting in between Jared's comments. You make a good point, but it seems to me that they need to plan things out a bit more before taking any action in terms of construction of the proposed plaza. They're making it seem right now that they'd have one strip of "barrier free parking" in the northeast corner, the plaza to the west of that, and then the "staff parking and loading dock" in the southwest corner? Doesn't seem like a brilliant plan.
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Do you guys think it would inappropriate to put an entry about this museum on Lansing wikipedia page? I am 50/50 on this...it's not in Lansing proper so half of me says no, it doesn't belong on there. But E. Lansing/MSU and Lansing are so connected and this is a big enough of a thing that half of me says it would be good to have it there. What are your thoughts?
I've been trying to get things on the wikipedia page to make sure it's up to date and comprehensive, so if the majority of the responses are in favor of it I'll add it. However, I've not figured out how to put pictures on there so I don't make those updates. I was prompted to get your thoughts on this with all of the Springhill, TN GM people coming up here there's a good chance alot of people will be looking at the wikipedia page to get an idea of what's going on in Lansing. Also, on a sidenote someone fairly recently made a HUGE improvement to the LAN airport wikipedia page. Good job if one of you did that. -
- CommentAuthorMichMatters
- CommentTimeDec 19th 2009 edited
Sparty,
I do think parking is something of interest, and it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Personally, though, I like that a lot of the planning is giving the auto much mind. I imagine that given the limited parking on this part of campus, anyway, that they expect people to park in the nearby downtown and campus garages and walk, that and it's along a major bus line.
Micro,
Yeah, given the famous architect and the scope of the museum, I guess it may be appropriate to add it to Lansing's page. A good thing to do may be to see how the page deals with other regional institutions, such as how they incorporate MSU into Lansing's page. I haven't added any update to the Lansing page in ages since as far as I'm concerned it's already quite extensive for a page on a city the size of Lansing (i.e. less is more, yada yada yada), but when something like this comes along, it may be appropriate if not too much is added. Though, I haven't been adding anything to the page, there are a one or two people that have been "guarding" it for a year or two, now, and I'm generally in support of what they've kept out and the little they've let in. Some of the inane stuff like someone listing just about every event that occurs in Lansing was smart to keep from being published. -
Eli and Edythe Broad donated another $2 million dollars toward the project. Construction should be starting soon, I think I had seen February or early March.
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The LSJ article yesterday said that they are supposed to break ground March 16th.
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Thanks for the clarification.
