I have also found boarders and city limits interesting. I have noted the the road gets much worse once you cross from East Lansing to Lansing on Forest Road. It is interesting in the sense that humans draw these lines, and they often draw a real but man made difference with very different circumstances on each side. Locally these silly lines put people one Mifflin Street in a different municipality, then their neighbors on S. Francis Street. The people on Mifflin have no sidewalks, curbs, or proper storm drains, and few street lights. It always strikes me when you cross a line, "our interests stop here!" and the snow plow turns around.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that the U Club is separately owned and not part of MSU. The Lansing part of Forest Rd is much nicer than the East Lansing part. A few problems in the bike lanes but overall pretty good for one of the older bike lanes in the city. I do feel bad for the South Lansing Community Development Association when they put on their triathlons. They have a lot of road problems on their bike course. The worst areas are where it goes east on Mount Hope (which has some pretty bad spots in Lansing), turns south on Beaumont (which is horrible in a car, let alone a bike), and west on Forest (really bad until Farm Ln). A lot of bad roads for them to deal with. Their Olympic triathlon does an additional out and back on College Rd, which is a wonderful road for biking. I bike through this area a lot and the road differences between Lansing, East Lansing, and MSU are striking.
But I've seen this stuff all my life too. I grew up on a dirt road that was the county line between Eaton and Barry counties. Neither really showed much interest in maintaining it, especially in the winter.
Please be sure and tell seeclickfix.com about these road conditions, they often, but not always, respond and at least patch the pot holes.
It is true when you drive down Michigan, Clemens,Greenlawn,S Washington or S Holmes there is a physical feeling of relief. While the way the Repubs. have handled the Flint water infrastructure has left me thinking I hope they do better with the roads, and spend the new tax money well and fast. I swear there are whole blocks on the north side where there is really no pavement.
I think both but as the council members are being sued as doing part of their job it means they are named but the city would pay for the legal defense as well as any settlement costs.
It seems to be a kind of misguided on all sides. It also seems strange that the neighbors would object to subsidized housing in a neighborhood full of lower income families and sub-standard housing. The "glamour of Old Town" does not go very far beyond N Grand River, what are they trying to protect?
Thank you for your post, it at least makes the situation there understandable, it's politics. We don't exactly have developers lining up to build in Lansing, you are right they should stick to their roles in our city government and and work together if they can.
Meanwhile over here in REOtown there is some kind of renovation going on at the old Lansing Uniform Shop. I do remember reading that someone had bought that building, and that they had businesses lined up to go in there. The for lease signs were still up so I did not think much was going on. It is great to see more activity in REOtown.
Over on S. Hosmer just past the underpass they are doing a major renovation on a warehouse like building. They have exposed some very old looking brick walls that show the signs of all the years of different renovations. It is on a short cut I take to get over to Kalamazoo Street and I can not really remember even looking at that building, so it is great someone has and are doing something there.
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I thought it was interesting that the owner of the bar has gone on to sell macaroons! That would seem about as far as you could get from that old bar.
I have also found boarders and city limits interesting. I have noted the the road gets much worse once you cross from East Lansing to Lansing on Forest Road. It is interesting in the sense that humans draw these lines, and they often draw a real but man made difference with very different circumstances on each side. Locally these silly lines put people one Mifflin Street in a different municipality, then their neighbors on S. Francis Street. The people on Mifflin have no sidewalks, curbs, or proper storm drains, and few street lights. It always strikes me when you cross a line, "our interests stop here!" and the snow plow turns around.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that the U Club is separately owned and not part of MSU. The Lansing part of Forest Rd is much nicer than the East Lansing part. A few problems in the bike lanes but overall pretty good for one of the older bike lanes in the city. I do feel bad for the South Lansing Community Development Association when they put on their triathlons. They have a lot of road problems on their bike course. The worst areas are where it goes east on Mount Hope (which has some pretty bad spots in Lansing), turns south on Beaumont (which is horrible in a car, let alone a bike), and west on Forest (really bad until Farm Ln). A lot of bad roads for them to deal with. Their Olympic triathlon does an additional out and back on College Rd, which is a wonderful road for biking. I bike through this area a lot and the road differences between Lansing, East Lansing, and MSU are striking.
But I've seen this stuff all my life too. I grew up on a dirt road that was the county line between Eaton and Barry counties. Neither really showed much interest in maintaining it, especially in the winter.
Please be sure and tell seeclickfix.com about these road conditions, they often, but not always, respond and at least patch the pot holes.
It is true when you drive down Michigan, Clemens,Greenlawn,S Washington or S Holmes there is a physical feeling of relief. While the way the Repubs. have handled the Flint water infrastructure has left me thinking I hope they do better with the roads, and spend the new tax money well and fast. I swear there are whole blocks on the north side where there is really no pavement.
The lawsuit over the Saboury development in Old Town might get settled. An article posted in the LSJ says that the two parties are open to mediation.
It would be great to see this project move forward and have activity at this vacant building.
I hope to see that lawsuit resolved and the Saboury project move forward. It would be really nice to see some new construction in Old Town.
It seems to be a kind of misguided on all sides. It also seems strange that the neighbors would object to subsidized housing in a neighborhood full of lower income families and sub-standard housing. The "glamour of Old Town" does not go very far beyond N Grand River, what are they trying to protect?
Thank you for your post, it at least makes the situation there understandable, it's politics. We don't exactly have developers lining up to build in Lansing, you are right they should stick to their roles in our city government and and work together if they can.
Meanwhile over here in REOtown there is some kind of renovation going on at the old Lansing Uniform Shop. I do remember reading that someone had bought that building, and that they had businesses lined up to go in there. The for lease signs were still up so I did not think much was going on. It is great to see more activity in REOtown.
Over on S. Hosmer just past the underpass they are doing a major renovation on a warehouse like building. They have exposed some very old looking brick walls that show the signs of all the years of different renovations. It is on a short cut I take to get over to Kalamazoo Street and I can not really remember even looking at that building, so it is great someone has and are doing something there.