Yeah...this is a huge disappointment. I have to say, if they wanted to go the classical route, AM Stern would be an amazing architect to go with. I've always loved their work. I'd be curious how/why they chose Krieger Klatt. Are they cheap? Does somebody's relative work there lol? Seems like an interesting choice. I truly hope it was just a stunt and this conceptual design is only that.
Our city is just a sad, sad joke and I don't know how to help it get better. These are generational missteps that probably can't be rectified in a couple years or even decades.
Yeah, I wonder if they could've done design build with a contractor...seems like the stupid route they would try. I am confused how this is a $40 million building, especially when previously mentioned, I thought the city had a budget and then the state contributed. Like where is that all going with thus design?!
Yeah...I only vaguely know of them from when I was looking for work awhile back. I get the impression from LinkedIn that they're primarily high end custom homes, and not ones that were well thought out but that's a personal opinion. There are just more notable options I'd go with for such a building which should be notable, even MI based options still. Though, I do have a weakness for RAMSA lol.
Yeah...the parking complaint always had me baffled, and I can't see how this is addressing that...I hate how everything is so focused around parking. I've never had a problem with parking downtown. Maybe it's because I worked down there for years and know where to look...I never got the parking complaints for any of downtown.
Fingers crossed this just isn't real and just a stunt haha.
Thanks for the photos of wonderful buildings in other cities, now I really do have a case of project envy! I remember the first drawings of the "Ovation" which were rather strange imo, that project did benefit from a lot of input from citizens I believe. The city changed the plan to a much more interesting one. Perhaps if we let the mayor know Lansing can do better, we want a city hall that is proper for Michigan's Capital City. I think a good design would not be necessarily more expensive than a poor one. Or they could just build a steel pole barn out on S. Cedar somewhere and use the left-over money for a real civic center. I also believe we had better get these projects rolling before the orange menace and the muskrat destroy the economy, I have seen this before when really cool projects planned during good times end up not built or "scaled down" when the economy tanked. I also don't understand the very long time between the announcement of these projects and the date the project actually gets built. How long have we been hearing about The Ovation? I think the fence around the site has been there for over a year, what's the hold-up!
"The design is final"...this is so discouraging. I don't see where the $40 million is going. This design is suburban shit. I wasn't so upset when I believed this couldn't be a final design...
Yeah. I'm with you. I'm done with him at this point.
This looks like suburban office parks I've worked on (not proud of them lol). A Comcast call center comes to mind. You're absolutely right. He sees it as a service center, not a community hub that we can be proud of. This isn't appropriate for a city of our size and history.
Schor almost sounds petty in the article. They didn't like his design, so screw it let's approve the first thing that they show me that comes in on budget.
Agreed, Schor has gotta go. If we get someone incompetent in his place then at least the political space is open for someone else to rise up, whereas nobody serious seems to want to go against Schor. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll leave on his own accord. He seems like the fail-up type.
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Yeah...I only vaguely know of them from when I was looking for work awhile back. I get the impression from LinkedIn that they're primarily high end custom homes, and not ones that were well thought out but that's a personal opinion. There are just more notable options I'd go with for such a building which should be notable, even MI based options still. Though, I do have a weakness for RAMSA lol.
Yeah...the parking complaint always had me baffled, and I can't see how this is addressing that...I hate how everything is so focused around parking. I've never had a problem with parking downtown. Maybe it's because I worked down there for years and know where to look...I never got the parking complaints for any of downtown.
Fingers crossed this just isn't real and just a stunt haha.
https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/form-and-function-in-parking-lot-1,129559
This looks like suburban office parks I've worked on (not proud of them lol). A Comcast call center comes to mind. You're absolutely right. He sees it as a service center, not a community hub that we can be proud of. This isn't appropriate for a city of our size and history.