@Darklink I don't think the problem is as much with the road so much as the people driving on it, though I'm sure being a 4-5 lane one way street doesn't do much to help.
@MichMatters I'm glad to see that Coleman Rd extension get started, it's much needed. It is sort of bittersweet though as it will probably spur even more development in Eastwood and the Coolidge/West Rd corridors, I'm sure State Rd will get a freeway exit before too long.
Interesting, I wonder if there are there any plans to make Clemens/Aurelius more conducive to biking. I'm also wondering if they are planning to do any additional improvements given this will be used alongside Pennsylvania as the hospital route from Lansing for the new McLaren facility. Maybe I should email them and see.
Speaking of near the Capitol, I can't wait for them to redo that small patch of Walnut north of Shiawassee but south of Saginaw. That is starting to get pretty goddam brutal driving through on a daily basis.
There were funds last year to add sidewalks on Aurelius, for a section from Cavanaugh to Forest. This was not done and I do not see it scheduled for this year either. @Darklink if you find out anything to add some protected bike lanes on Aurelius from Mt hope to Kalamazoo let me know.
As for along Collins I inquired about the complete streets ordinance for the new hospital. I received an email with a general the city will study it but there is no money. I was kinda surprised that the hospital is not paying for some protected lanes along this stretch. They removed 3/4 of a mile of roads for the new hospital. I did ask the mayor and the council rep that the hospital should put in some side paths/protected lanes along Collins and forest. They did not respond with any improvements listed.
This all seems haphazard in the way the city plans road repairs/repaving. Pine St. has about six different surface conditions from newly paved to very poor potholes across whole lanes. This seems crazy to me. The same thing on Mt. Hope, now with poorly marked lane shifts on both ends of the new pavement. Between Boston Blvd. and Pattengill it is difficult to see the lane markings which is supposed to be three lanes lining up with the new pavement, it still looks like a four-lane street and it is dangerous to sit in the "left turn lane" when people are using the lane as a thru lane and it looks like you are sitting in the middle of the road waiting to turn. I know it's all about the money. I am happy to see the improvements being planned I wish they were more extensive. I saw recently that Jackson[County?] bought its own road grinder/repaving machine, does Lansing have one?
I sent an email this morning to Lansing City regarding my questions for the Aurelius repave and will report back if I hear anything.
Old 27 just north of Lansing feels pretty dangerous now too ever since they repaved that. Maybe it will get better with time but the pavement is so dark and the new paint isn't nearly as reflective enough as it should be so you can hardly see at night. It was raining and dark the other week and it was hard to see where you needed to be in the road itself. Otherwise the repave there is great and as smooth as it can be (for now).
LSJ did a good job with this article in my opinion.
This area is going to need some complex fixes to make those streets manageable, and I think this should be a big focus for all jurisdictions involved. Bridging Lansing and East Lansing via the Frandor area will do great things for the area. Making it more bikeable, walkable, and generally safe to navigate will boost an already booming area. I chose to live near Frandor because it is convenient, but I would never walk there from Lansing in its current state. I used to live off of Glenmoor RD in East Lansing and would walk through Ranney Park all the time, but it is much more chaotic heading from the Lansing side. If they improved the navigation it would be great.
I was driving through Frandor towards East Lansing today and noticed they are putting up new signals. When I came back it didn't look like any have gone up westward towards Lansing. I assume these are the arrow signals as outlined in the LSJ article last week. There looked to be some for Clippert and Homer streets around there too.
As a kid, I went to some events like pancake suppers in this building. I think it was called the Macedonian Hall[could be wrong!] like the Polish Hall up the street, is one of the older buildings on W. Mt Hope. I am looking forward to driving on this newly paved street for my China Garden and QD runs.
Just a note from REOtown, they seem to be beefing up parking enforcement on S. Washington Ave. I am not sure if there is a time limit for the 1000 block up, I know there is not one for the 900 blocks, there has been a parking enforcement person down there ticketing for parking on the sidewalk[in front of potential Pablos:} and blocking drives all this week. I never even noticed one over here before. I hope they do not consider installing parking meters.
Thank you for the interesting information, I believe most of the neighborhood in that area was developed in the 1910s and '20s, my Dad grew up on Delevan Street and went to Barnes Ave, which was built in 1919. There is a really nice house at 1814 Delevan that my Grand Father and his brothers built.
I like modern Lansing with so many new folks from all over the world. I was walking in Scott Woods and came across some people from Laos picking wild mustard greens and fiddleheads in the woods. They were so nice to show what they had been picking. I had never seen anyone gathering food in those woods. I think most people from Lansing would not even leave the paved trail so it was cool to see the folks out there in the woods gathering wild greens.
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@Darklink I don't think the problem is as much with the road so much as the people driving on it, though I'm sure being a 4-5 lane one way street doesn't do much to help.
@MichMatters I'm glad to see that Coleman Rd extension get started, it's much needed. It is sort of bittersweet though as it will probably spur even more development in Eastwood and the Coolidge/West Rd corridors, I'm sure State Rd will get a freeway exit before too long.
Interesting, I wonder if there are there any plans to make Clemens/Aurelius more conducive to biking. I'm also wondering if they are planning to do any additional improvements given this will be used alongside Pennsylvania as the hospital route from Lansing for the new McLaren facility. Maybe I should email them and see.
Speaking of near the Capitol, I can't wait for them to redo that small patch of Walnut north of Shiawassee but south of Saginaw. That is starting to get pretty goddam brutal driving through on a daily basis.
There were funds last year to add sidewalks on Aurelius, for a section from Cavanaugh to Forest. This was not done and I do not see it scheduled for this year either.
@Darklink if you find out anything to add some protected bike lanes on Aurelius from Mt hope to Kalamazoo let me know.
As for along Collins I inquired about the complete streets ordinance for the new hospital. I received an email with a general the city will study it but there is no money. I was kinda surprised that the hospital is not paying for some protected lanes along this stretch. They removed 3/4 of a mile of roads for the new hospital. I did ask the mayor and the council rep that the hospital should put in some side paths/protected lanes along Collins and forest. They did not respond with any improvements listed.
This all seems haphazard in the way the city plans road repairs/repaving. Pine St. has about six different surface conditions from newly paved to very poor potholes across whole lanes. This seems crazy to me. The same thing on Mt. Hope, now with poorly marked lane shifts on both ends of the new pavement. Between Boston Blvd. and Pattengill it is difficult to see the lane markings which is supposed to be three lanes lining up with the new pavement, it still looks like a four-lane street and it is dangerous to sit in the "left turn lane" when people are using the lane as a thru lane and it looks like you are sitting in the middle of the road waiting to turn. I know it's all about the money. I am happy to see the improvements being planned I wish they were more extensive. I saw recently that Jackson[County?] bought its own road grinder/repaving machine, does Lansing have one?
I sent an email this morning to Lansing City regarding my questions for the Aurelius repave and will report back if I hear anything.
Old 27 just north of Lansing feels pretty dangerous now too ever since they repaved that. Maybe it will get better with time but the pavement is so dark and the new paint isn't nearly as reflective enough as it should be so you can hardly see at night. It was raining and dark the other week and it was hard to see where you needed to be in the road itself. Otherwise the repave there is great and as smooth as it can be (for now).
LSJ did a good job with this article in my opinion.
This area is going to need some complex fixes to make those streets manageable, and I think this should be a big focus for all jurisdictions involved. Bridging Lansing and East Lansing via the Frandor area will do great things for the area. Making it more bikeable, walkable, and generally safe to navigate will boost an already booming area. I chose to live near Frandor because it is convenient, but I would never walk there from Lansing in its current state. I used to live off of Glenmoor RD in East Lansing and would walk through Ranney Park all the time, but it is much more chaotic heading from the Lansing side. If they improved the navigation it would be great.
I was driving through Frandor towards East Lansing today and noticed they are putting up new signals. When I came back it didn't look like any have gone up westward towards Lansing. I assume these are the arrow signals as outlined in the LSJ article last week. There looked to be some for Clippert and Homer streets around there too.
As a kid, I went to some events like pancake suppers in this building. I think it was called the Macedonian Hall[could be wrong!] like the Polish Hall up the street, is one of the older buildings on W. Mt Hope. I am looking forward to driving on this newly paved street for my China Garden and QD runs.
Just a note from REOtown, they seem to be beefing up parking enforcement on S. Washington Ave. I am not sure if there is a time limit for the 1000 block up, I know there is not one for the 900 blocks, there has been a parking enforcement person down there ticketing for parking on the sidewalk[in front of potential Pablos:} and blocking drives all this week. I never even noticed one over here before. I hope they do not consider installing parking meters.
Thank you for the interesting information, I believe most of the neighborhood in that area was developed in the 1910s and '20s, my Dad grew up on Delevan Street and went to Barnes Ave, which was built in 1919. There is a really nice house at 1814 Delevan that my Grand Father and his brothers built.
I like modern Lansing with so many new folks from all over the world. I was walking in Scott Woods and came across some people from Laos picking wild mustard greens and fiddleheads in the woods. They were so nice to show what they had been picking. I had never seen anyone gathering food in those woods. I think most people from Lansing would not even leave the paved trail so it was cool to see the folks out there in the woods gathering wild greens.