I'm not totally against even some of the crazier colors if they'd just use quality materials. Things like glass, ceramic or stone tiles; metal panels like on Knapps; or bricks that aren't just fancy cinder blocks.
@gbdinlansing I think it's a safe bet that there will be one or two buildings built facing Cedar. There were always buildings facing Cedar in the site plans for Market Place, but I don't think the current development matches up with those old site plans.
I think these developers should be building some services for what will soon be even more people living downtown. Maybe they could get someone like Horrocks to run the city market and fill they place with merchandise and people.
@MichMatters No, I couldn't find it. I think it was under "documents placed on file" before, making it easy to find. I don't see it there anymore. It might be possible to find it if you knew the date of the council agenda it'd be in.
As for City Market, I really don't think it'll ever work in it's current building or location for a lot of reasons, I think two of the biggest problems are that it's too small and there's not enough parking. I'd still really like to see an expanded market with an expanded focus, I really like what I see in Detroit's Eastern Market and Grand Rapids' City Market. I'm kinda partial to my own vision for the market that I've shared before but regardless I'd really like to see some serious attention and investment paid to the market, if done right it may be able to fund itself or even turn a profit.
I think the location could work for the City Market eventually. I agree that it does feel small. It was designed for a second floor mezzanine that could help but that was a future task if the demand was there...so I can't see them doing that anytime soon without a push to embrace more vendors and a variety. I stopped going as often when it was mostly produce. I mean, how many options did I need for produce? I would have loved to replace trips to Meijer with a trip to the City Market but it was tough when the only options seemed like veggies and cheese.
Again with Columbus, Ohio, they have a great City Market in the Short North with such a variety that is thriving. I believe they just completed another expansion. Boston had another I was at about a year ago which had just opened. They've got variety along with narrow aisles which make them seem busy even when they aren't. I think visually there are some tricks that could be had to revitalize Lansing's.
That said, I believe both are not owned and operated by the cities...
As I walked by the Intrigue storefront in REOtown I noticed a depiction of the Outfield Apartments built out to the corner of Cedar and Shiawassee dated 2017. Are they going to build out the area next to the street soon? It looks "colorful" but great.
@gbdinlansing That's interesting about the rendering at Studio Intrigue, I'll have to try to take a peek.
I agree that the city needs to do something about the parking in the Stadium District area. I think that rental lot is a little far north to be of much help to what's already been built but it may be the only option since Gillespie owns all the land that you'd really like to see a ramp on.
Does anyone know what is going on with the renovations at the old Beer Grotto? There is some plastic sheeting covering a big hole on the Cedar Street side of the building. I was guessing that maybe the bank office was expanding, but I really don't know.
The drawing depicts the area on the west side of Cedar in front of the first and second phases of the development, which is now a parking lot. I believe that there is a parking structure drawn into building further up Cedar from the corner. The corner is drawn with a glass facade building on the corner where the sculpture stands now and then the colorful apartments building then what looks to be a parking structure. I thought the drawing may be older but it had a 2017 date on it so maybe this is a new plan. It looked great with the building coming up to the sidewalk.
@ratchetwrench I may be mistaken, but it sounds like you're describing the damage that was done when the bus hit the old Grotto location a few months ago.
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I'm not totally against even some of the crazier colors if they'd just use quality materials. Things like glass, ceramic or stone tiles; metal panels like on Knapps; or bricks that aren't just fancy cinder blocks.
@gbdinlansing I think it's a safe bet that there will be one or two buildings built facing Cedar. There were always buildings facing Cedar in the site plans for Market Place, but I don't think the current development matches up with those old site plans.
I think these developers should be building some services for what will soon be even more people living downtown. Maybe they could get someone like Horrocks to run the city market and fill they place with merchandise and people.
@MichMatters No, I couldn't find it. I think it was under "documents placed on file" before, making it easy to find. I don't see it there anymore. It might be possible to find it if you knew the date of the council agenda it'd be in.
As for City Market, I really don't think it'll ever work in it's current building or location for a lot of reasons, I think two of the biggest problems are that it's too small and there's not enough parking. I'd still really like to see an expanded market with an expanded focus, I really like what I see in Detroit's Eastern Market and Grand Rapids' City Market. I'm kinda partial to my own vision for the market that I've shared before but regardless I'd really like to see some serious attention and investment paid to the market, if done right it may be able to fund itself or even turn a profit.
I think the location could work for the City Market eventually. I agree that it does feel small. It was designed for a second floor mezzanine that could help but that was a future task if the demand was there...so I can't see them doing that anytime soon without a push to embrace more vendors and a variety. I stopped going as often when it was mostly produce. I mean, how many options did I need for produce? I would have loved to replace trips to Meijer with a trip to the City Market but it was tough when the only options seemed like veggies and cheese.
Again with Columbus, Ohio, they have a great City Market in the Short North with such a variety that is thriving. I believe they just completed another expansion. Boston had another I was at about a year ago which had just opened. They've got variety along with narrow aisles which make them seem busy even when they aren't. I think visually there are some tricks that could be had to revitalize Lansing's.
That said, I believe both are not owned and operated by the cities...
As I walked by the Intrigue storefront in REOtown I noticed a depiction of the Outfield Apartments built out to the corner of Cedar and Shiawassee dated 2017. Are they going to build out the area next to the street soon? It looks "colorful" but great.
@gbdinlansing That's interesting about the rendering at Studio Intrigue, I'll have to try to take a peek.
I agree that the city needs to do something about the parking in the Stadium District area. I think that rental lot is a little far north to be of much help to what's already been built but it may be the only option since Gillespie owns all the land that you'd really like to see a ramp on.
Does anyone know what is going on with the renovations at the old Beer Grotto? There is some plastic sheeting covering a big hole on the Cedar Street side of the building. I was guessing that maybe the bank office was expanding, but I really don't know.
The drawing depicts the area on the west side of Cedar in front of the first and second phases of the development, which is now a parking lot. I believe that there is a parking structure drawn into building further up Cedar from the corner. The corner is drawn with a glass facade building on the corner where the sculpture stands now and then the colorful apartments building then what looks to be a parking structure. I thought the drawing may be older but it had a 2017 date on it so maybe this is a new plan. It looked great with the building coming up to the sidewalk.
@ratchetwrench I may be mistaken, but it sounds like you're describing the damage that was done when the bus hit the old Grotto location a few months ago.
Yes, I have a camera but I do not know how to upload a photo to this site.:{