@sabatoa The Atlas Forge building (now Premier Thermal Solutions aka PTS) is the building within that complex but just west of the train tracks. I had imagined the two floor buildings in that complex as a mix of commercial and apartments. I have a 3d model of my idea for the whole complex, including the Atlas Forge-turned-City Market. The biggest thing stopping this from happening is that QD and PTS own their buildings and actively use them, buying the RR tracks may not be feasible either.
Wow so cool, I really like that concept and putting that large area into public use would be great. When I grew up nearby you could always hear the drop forge pounding all night they would also open the doors in the summer and you could see the sparks flying. There was a discount department store in the building on the corner so there has been retail in that building. If they built this complex then add the French building there would be lots of people in the neighborhood to shop there. Right now at Cedar and Mt. Hope there seems to be something going in the sevice station building next to Sir Pizza. The building has been painted and cleared out and the parking lot has been repaved.
Of course, the notes about a new market are interesting and thoughtful, and great ideas, I was thinking it would be nice to be able to visit the depot building more often as a market rather than just once in a while as a restaurant.
@Lymon89 virtually the whole site is in a 100 year floodplain according to the maps. While certainly not ideal, I don't see why being in a 100 year floodplain would be much of a problem for a city market building though, there's relatively little of value that couldn't be easily and quickly removed. I don't think any of the BWL site flooded in the most recent floods so I think it really will take a full-on 100 year flood or close to it to be affected.
Wow, i see I missed some great ideas over the past few weeks! My vote is for Clara's; hood makes some good arguments for a different spot, but its hard to beat the feel of the old train station... which would be perfect for a farm-to-table restaurant! Plus, I think there is lots of surface parking around Clara's, as well as space in front for a seasonal outdoor market, and space in back to bump out some permanent vendor space.
Apologies if I missed this already, but now and through the weekend the city wants public input on what Michigan Ave should look like. Apparently some kind of demo is going on on the 2000 block?
Delta is a Charter Township, so they have to be involved in the discussion. Charter Townships are harder to annex.
The way it normally works, if I remember right, is that 20% of the affected Charter residents must sign the petition to bring it to ballot, and then a majority of the Charter residents must vote in favor of the annexation.
In this case, I'm sure everyone in Delta will vote for it- the region drags their statistics down in all categories. But I don't know how it works when the proposed annexation area doesn't contain any residents to sign the petition. Maybe it goes straight to the Charter council to bring to ballot?
"It's always been a really weird set-up, and these have often been problem spots for crime in the area, but the city couldn't regulate this area since it's technically part of Delta Township."
That explains why that little stretch always as been even more blighted than the rest of Jollly. Welcome to Lansing little shops!
It won't happen, but it'd make a cleaner border to use the Grand River as the SE boundary of Delta Township. That little stretch of Jolly is completely cut off from the rest of the Township.
jeez, looking at the streetview it's clear that Delta wants no part of this land. They put the "Welcome to Delta Township" sign just beyond the one residential property- and far beyond the actual boundary at Waverly Rd.
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@sabatoa The Atlas Forge building (now Premier Thermal Solutions aka PTS) is the building within that complex but just west of the train tracks. I had imagined the two floor buildings in that complex as a mix of commercial and apartments. I have a 3d model of my idea for the whole complex, including the Atlas Forge-turned-City Market. The biggest thing stopping this from happening is that QD and PTS own their buildings and actively use them, buying the RR tracks may not be feasible either.
A couple views of my model:
Wow so cool, I really like that concept and putting that large area into public use would be great. When I grew up nearby you could always hear the drop forge pounding all night they would also open the doors in the summer and you could see the sparks flying. There was a discount department store in the building on the corner so there has been retail in that building. If they built this complex then add the French building there would be lots of people in the neighborhood to shop there. Right now at Cedar and Mt. Hope there seems to be something going in the sevice station building next to Sir Pizza. The building has been painted and cleared out and the parking lot has been repaved.
Of course, the notes about a new market are interesting and thoughtful, and great ideas, I was thinking it would be nice to be able to visit the depot building more often as a market rather than just once in a while as a restaurant.
@Lymon89 virtually the whole site is in a 100 year floodplain according to the maps. While certainly not ideal, I don't see why being in a 100 year floodplain would be much of a problem for a city market building though, there's relatively little of value that couldn't be easily and quickly removed. I don't think any of the BWL site flooded in the most recent floods so I think it really will take a full-on 100 year flood or close to it to be affected.
Wow, i see I missed some great ideas over the past few weeks! My vote is for Clara's; hood makes some good arguments for a different spot, but its hard to beat the feel of the old train station... which would be perfect for a farm-to-table restaurant! Plus, I think there is lots of surface parking around Clara's, as well as space in front for a seasonal outdoor market, and space in back to bump out some permanent vendor space.
Love the winter garden idea too!
Apologies if I missed this already, but now and through the weekend the city wants public input on what Michigan Ave should look like. Apparently some kind of demo is going on on the 2000 block?
https://www.lansingmi.gov/1730/Imagine-the-Avenue
Delta is a Charter Township, so they have to be involved in the discussion. Charter Townships are harder to annex.
The way it normally works, if I remember right, is that 20% of the affected Charter residents must sign the petition to bring it to ballot, and then a majority of the Charter residents must vote in favor of the annexation.
In this case, I'm sure everyone in Delta will vote for it- the region drags their statistics down in all categories. But I don't know how it works when the proposed annexation area doesn't contain any residents to sign the petition. Maybe it goes straight to the Charter council to bring to ballot?
"It's always been a really weird set-up, and these have often been problem spots for crime in the area, but the city couldn't regulate this area since it's technically part of Delta Township."
That explains why that little stretch always as been even more blighted than the rest of Jollly. Welcome to Lansing little shops!
It won't happen, but it'd make a cleaner border to use the Grand River as the SE boundary of Delta Township. That little stretch of Jolly is completely cut off from the rest of the Township.
jeez, looking at the streetview it's clear that Delta wants no part of this land. They put the "Welcome to Delta Township" sign just beyond the one residential property- and far beyond the actual boundary at Waverly Rd.
Streetview.
Tannin is moving from Okemos to East Michigan Avenue. I love this kind of confidence in the city.
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2018/08/20/tannin-restaurant-italian-okemos-moving-east-michigan-avenue-lansing/926311002/