If I was building a house and the contractor tried to pull this, I'd fire them on the spot and take my chances in court if they tried to sue me.
I don't find it remotely admirable that the developer is "working" with the city on this conflict. Just. Pure. Greed. They are in a massive time crunch, and they know that even if the city "technically" can't force them to stick to their agreement (which I still don't buy, considering all their materials were submitted in writing, AND discussed and negotiated, on video with the city council), and the city starts dragging its feet, the developers will miss the critical due date to get their money from the state.
@MichMatters East Lansing has a specific ordinance that was passed after the St. Anne Lofts fiasco that requires that what is built matches the approved plans.
I thing they're drilling pilings right now, they definitely have a drill rig on site. They also have most of the site excavated, though it doesn't look all that deep, easily less than 10 feet I'd guess. I'm usually by in the evening so I don't see what they're actually doing during the day.
I guess I'm happy with the look of this and definitely happy to see it finally underway. We can all breath a 10-year sigh of relief.
I think this project has good urban design sensibility. I like the smaller building -- it harkens back to some of the 1960s-70s high-rise apartment buildings scattered around downtown Lansing..... Hopefully this has a more contemporary feel
This will look awesome as we are driving east on Michigan ave.
What arch firm is working on this?? I commend them for working through a lot of design options and seemingly striking a decent balance between a picky city and an (embattled?) developer.
Lastly, the views from these new apt buildings out onto campus must be stunning. From the parking garages, campus looks like a giant carpet (tree canopy) w occasional buildings and landmarks cropping up. Evryone should check out this view if you've not already!
This depiction looks good. I wonder why they put out those other drawings a while ago just to see if we were paying attention? I think these facades will catch and reflect the sunlight from the west. It looks like a good balance of brick and glass.
It is interesting to see how the dollar bills keep flowing around this project changing the plan even as it is being built. What was a good idea, the retail, now has changed and a courtyard is a better idea? I have seen a few hotel-courtyards that work and more that do not. One that does is the Inter-Continental in Boston it is along the Fort Point Channel and is nicely landscaped sunny and open welcoming, away from traffic noise. One that does not is right here down the street at the E.L. Marriot. Too much cement even the artwork is cement, in the shade most of the time, there is a bus stop for the Michigan Flyer right in front. Not very pleasant. Maybe people use it more than I am aware of but I do not see folks stopping there except to wait for the bus. I am hoping in this new plan for a nice area that will be of use to visitors and people in the neighborhood.
So many great construction jobs with all of this development going on. It is going to take some time to get used to these massive buildings. I have enjoyed watching them go up. I was wondering where is the parking for The Hub? I can not see where it is from Grand River Avenue.
I like that plan. It is much better than the huge cement structure they built for the Skyvue which you can see for miles from every nearly every direction. Seeing the cars parked in that one is about the only way one can tell there are people renting those apartments, it is such a fortress. I have noted before that The Hub building seems to fit into its space at least on the Grand River Ave side. I wonder if with the new building they can keep that feeling of not overwhelming and shadowing the street below.
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If I was building a house and the contractor tried to pull this, I'd fire them on the spot and take my chances in court if they tried to sue me.
I don't find it remotely admirable that the developer is "working" with the city on this conflict. Just. Pure. Greed. They are in a massive time crunch, and they know that even if the city "technically" can't force them to stick to their agreement (which I still don't buy, considering all their materials were submitted in writing, AND discussed and negotiated, on video with the city council), and the city starts dragging its feet, the developers will miss the critical due date to get their money from the state.
@MichMatters East Lansing has a specific ordinance that was passed after the St. Anne Lofts fiasco that requires that what is built matches the approved plans.
https://eastlansing.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=269&meta_id=14695
Thanks to https://eastlansinginfo.org/content/renderings-versus-reality-east-lansing for finding the ordinance. So this appears to be pretty enforceable from a legal standpoint.
I thing they're drilling pilings right now, they definitely have a drill rig on site. They also have most of the site excavated, though it doesn't look all that deep, easily less than 10 feet I'd guess. I'm usually by in the evening so I don't see what they're actually doing during the day.
I guess I'm happy with the look of this and definitely happy to see it finally underway. We can all breath a 10-year sigh of relief.
I think this project has good urban design sensibility. I like the smaller building -- it harkens back to some of the 1960s-70s high-rise apartment buildings scattered around downtown Lansing..... Hopefully this has a more contemporary feel
This will look awesome as we are driving east on Michigan ave.
What arch firm is working on this?? I commend them for working through a lot of design options and seemingly striking a decent balance between a picky city and an (embattled?) developer.
Lastly, the views from these new apt buildings out onto campus must be stunning. From the parking garages, campus looks like a giant carpet (tree canopy) w occasional buildings and landmarks cropping up. Evryone should check out this view if you've not already!
This depiction looks good. I wonder why they put out those other drawings a while ago just to see if we were paying attention? I think these facades will catch and reflect the sunlight from the west. It looks like a good balance of brick and glass.
It is interesting to see how the dollar bills keep flowing around this project changing the plan even as it is being built. What was a good idea, the retail, now has changed and a courtyard is a better idea? I have seen a few hotel-courtyards that work and more that do not. One that does is the Inter-Continental in Boston it is along the Fort Point Channel and is nicely landscaped sunny and open welcoming, away from traffic noise. One that does not is right here down the street at the E.L. Marriot. Too much cement even the artwork is cement, in the shade most of the time, there is a bus stop for the Michigan Flyer right in front. Not very pleasant. Maybe people use it more than I am aware of but I do not see folks stopping there except to wait for the bus. I am hoping in this new plan for a nice area that will be of use to visitors and people in the neighborhood.
So many great construction jobs with all of this development going on. It is going to take some time to get used to these massive buildings. I have enjoyed watching them go up. I was wondering where is the parking for The Hub? I can not see where it is from Grand River Avenue.
I like that plan. It is much better than the huge cement structure they built for the Skyvue which you can see for miles from every nearly every direction. Seeing the cars parked in that one is about the only way one can tell there are people renting those apartments, it is such a fortress. I have noted before that The Hub building seems to fit into its space at least on the Grand River Ave side. I wonder if with the new building they can keep that feeling of not overwhelming and shadowing the street below.
This looks pretty good! The rooftop fun zone is very cool! There is going to be a great view from up there.