It's a lot of beds, but MSU enrollment hasn't exactly been decreasing. I think this is more an issue for the outer apartment complexes, which will have to cut rates to be competitive. I think Lansing's East Side will still be desirable for those who work in EL and students who want to live in a SFH without paying a significant premium.
But this is purely speculation from a layman, these people may have a better grasp on housing demands then I do.
I don't recall council having to jump through many hoops for The Hub. The only one I remember is that they wanted reduced parking requirements.
I think these proposals are great for the city. As already said, they are proposed in the right locations that will always be in high demand, and the outer apartment complexes most likely will slowly convert over to non-students and family housing. The downside is there is no public elementary school near the Northern Tier, only that one charter school that just opened.
Basically, I don't think the mistakes of the past (and still-ongoing present) should prevent the right things from being built today.
The other positive that this will bring is some much needed housing for young professionals who have just graduated from MSU but want to stay in the area. These buildings may not be targeted today for that demographic, but when that group reaches enough demand the housing will already be in place for them.
I took a bone-rattling trip to the PO on Collins Rd. and then to Bell's Pizza, [huge car eating potholes everywhere!] from Bells I could get a good view of The Hub. It looks huge but seems to be fitting into its space. There a lot of big windows which is nice but due to the design many windows look directly into the windows of the neighboring apartments. Maybe students don't care about something like that but I do not think I would like the view. For folks who don't live there, I think it will be a nice building to look at while driving by or waiting for pizza.
EastLansingInfo is wondering whether the reason for the 160 foot overlay across all of downtown is for a yet-to-be-announced proposal on Lot 11 behind Peanut Barrel at the corner of Albert and Bailey.
This parking lot is privately owned and leased by the city. The lease expires in 2020 and there are no more renewals allowed in the lease.
Today at the LSJ.com site they talk about the Park Place development. It is confusing to me, as to why they have changed the plans so radically and come up with something less appealing and much smaller. Have "market forces" changed so much, is it the height issue, are they trying to pull a fast one? Whatever they build it would nice if it were to be built at the same time as the development next door. It's really no man's land in that area right now, it would be kind of a bummer to see the construction going on for the next four years in that small area.
It looks like Greater Lansing is going to have an impressive number of hotel rooms available. There are about six or seven hotels being built now or will start soon. Even as I write that it seems unbelievable. I realize that the further out they build simple hotel block type buildings. The nice example is on W. Saginaw where they have at least provided an interesting looking facade with several different materials used. The not so nice example is the new hotel at the Eastwood center. A totally unremarkable building painted kind of dark colors and from Wood Rd. it looks like it is not finished or just really plain. This new plan seems basic but they are going to landscape the development very nicely.
I guess I meant more what's going on with the interior. The large sale area, waiting room, offices, breakroom, etc. It's way more... corporate than I imagine most dispensaries to be.
I can't help but think there's something else behind this. Maybe a developer is about to propose something for the lot behind Peanut Barrel and the city wants to keep using it as a parking lot. So this is their negotiation tactic to block anything from getting built there.
I wish the city would stop saying they're worried about too much "multifamily" housing (just call it like it is and say student housing) downtown. As long as more apartments keep getting built north of Lake Lansing the proof of the demand is still there.
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It's a lot of beds, but MSU enrollment hasn't exactly been decreasing. I think this is more an issue for the outer apartment complexes, which will have to cut rates to be competitive. I think Lansing's East Side will still be desirable for those who work in EL and students who want to live in a SFH without paying a significant premium.
But this is purely speculation from a layman, these people may have a better grasp on housing demands then I do.
I don't recall council having to jump through many hoops for The Hub. The only one I remember is that they wanted reduced parking requirements.
I think these proposals are great for the city. As already said, they are proposed in the right locations that will always be in high demand, and the outer apartment complexes most likely will slowly convert over to non-students and family housing. The downside is there is no public elementary school near the Northern Tier, only that one charter school that just opened.
Basically, I don't think the mistakes of the past (and still-ongoing present) should prevent the right things from being built today.
The other positive that this will bring is some much needed housing for young professionals who have just graduated from MSU but want to stay in the area. These buildings may not be targeted today for that demographic, but when that group reaches enough demand the housing will already be in place for them.
I took a bone-rattling trip to the PO on Collins Rd. and then to Bell's Pizza, [huge car eating potholes everywhere!] from Bells I could get a good view of The Hub. It looks huge but seems to be fitting into its space. There a lot of big windows which is nice but due to the design many windows look directly into the windows of the neighboring apartments. Maybe students don't care about something like that but I do not think I would like the view. For folks who don't live there, I think it will be a nice building to look at while driving by or waiting for pizza.
Very nicely done! 👏👏👏 This is a great format for a small urban grocer, especially as they will soon have to compete with Target.
EastLansingInfo is wondering whether the reason for the 160 foot overlay across all of downtown is for a yet-to-be-announced proposal on Lot 11 behind Peanut Barrel at the corner of Albert and Bailey.
This parking lot is privately owned and leased by the city. The lease expires in 2020 and there are no more renewals allowed in the lease.
https://eastlansinginfo.org/content/myriad-developments-council-meeting-no-answer-land-sale
Today at the LSJ.com site they talk about the Park Place development. It is confusing to me, as to why they have changed the plans so radically and come up with something less appealing and much smaller. Have "market forces" changed so much, is it the height issue, are they trying to pull a fast one? Whatever they build it would nice if it were to be built at the same time as the development next door. It's really no man's land in that area right now, it would be kind of a bummer to see the construction going on for the next four years in that small area.
It looks like Greater Lansing is going to have an impressive number of hotel rooms available. There are about six or seven hotels being built now or will start soon. Even as I write that it seems unbelievable. I realize that the further out they build simple hotel block type buildings. The nice example is on W. Saginaw where they have at least provided an interesting looking facade with several different materials used. The not so nice example is the new hotel at the Eastwood center. A totally unremarkable building painted kind of dark colors and from Wood Rd. it looks like it is not finished or just really plain. This new plan seems basic but they are going to landscape the development very nicely.
That seems like a way bigger and fancier dispensary than I think I've ever seen before.
I guess I meant more what's going on with the interior. The large sale area, waiting room, offices, breakroom, etc. It's way more... corporate than I imagine most dispensaries to be.
I wish the city would stop saying they're worried about too much "multifamily" housing (just call it like it is and say student housing) downtown. As long as more apartments keep getting built north of Lake Lansing the proof of the demand is still there.