I'm still having a problem orienting myself in the renderings released, today. Obviously, this will come straight north off the existing wing. What I'm confused about is that it sounds like this will only go up to the bridge. I'm wondering, then, if the stretch along Shiawassee and Cedar currently fenced off won't just be used as a staging area? At 79-units, basically identical to the existing wing, there is no way this further wraps around to the street frontages.
I'm still wanting to see them complete the part along Cedar Street.
@MichMatters I think he's trying to wait as long as he can to do the part on Cedar to see how the casino thing plays out, whether that gets built would have a huge effect on what goes there.
The Marketplace expansion itself is unexciting, but I guess that was what should have been expected of this expansion. I was just hoping to be surprised with a building facing Shiawassee and/or Cedar. It's still great to see another building downtown, especially a (somewhat) higher end residential building.
This is a great thing for downtown. I have been noticing that even on weekends there are people downtown, patronizing the businesses that are open. I think it is true that people these days like a real urban environment. It is so cool that he said all of his downtown properties are fully occupied, I am hoping this will lead to more developments. I was hoping they would choose a different color scheme, but the guy likes green and yellow!
I was thinking the same thing about the casino. The current drawings depict a large parking structure along Cedar?? The space next to the Lansing Center is not that large where are they going to put these things? I also think he will wait to build on that area
Once the Cedar Street properties are built, the rest of MarketPlace will lose a lot of street frontage for advertising etc. I think Gillespie is delaying Cedar St expansion until MarketPlace phase 1 and 2 are fully occupied, and might try to leverage their worth and occupancy to get a larger loan for the Cedar St property so he can build bigger.
This would allow the Cedar St building to peek over MarketPlace phase 1 and 2, so top floor occupants can still get a view of the river and skyline. They would also get a prime view of the baseball field.
Really have to get pictures of this someday, but the second phase is topped out and they've started masonry work. Always love to see the masons doing their work. And while I think the other materials they use on this are kind of cheesy, the black brick work is spectacular. The brick is a short of modern callback to the dark bricks at the base of the old Ottawa Street Station across the river. I'd really like to see the Gillespie's use more of this quality brickwork in their projects.
I hadn't thought about that with the black brick but you are right. Whether intentional or by accident it's kind of a nice touch given the proximity.
I'd like to see them use more quality materials where it counts in general. There are some local architecture firms, that I wont name, that have this down despite so so deigns for the most part. I mean, look at the Lansing center for example. It's got some nice quality materials at the street side, lesser on the river side and then just cheap corrugated metal siding around the rest. It's possible to give a high end look economically.
At least they couldn't bid on City Hall! It'd be a multicolored mess.
I like the black brick too. Over on Michigan the "Avenue" building looks better than the drawings as well. I am growing use to the colorful sidings on these new buildings but if you get up close they do look kind of cheap. The "Skyvue" building comes to mind. I think they could use colored glazed bricks for color and it would look better. I am liking the colors more because I think they look better than all glass, and are an interesting addition to the landscape, just pick better colors. Is there going to be another building in the Market Place project fronting Cedar?
I'm not totally against even some of the crazier colors if they'd just use quality materials. Things like glass, ceramic or stone tiles; metal panels like on Knapps; or bricks that aren't just fancy cinder blocks.
@gbdinlansing I think it's a safe bet that there will be one or two buildings built facing Cedar. There were always buildings facing Cedar in the site plans for Market Place, but I don't think the current development matches up with those old site plans.
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I'm still having a problem orienting myself in the renderings released, today. Obviously, this will come straight north off the existing wing. What I'm confused about is that it sounds like this will only go up to the bridge. I'm wondering, then, if the stretch along Shiawassee and Cedar currently fenced off won't just be used as a staging area? At 79-units, basically identical to the existing wing, there is no way this further wraps around to the street frontages.
I'm still wanting to see them complete the part along Cedar Street.
@MichMatters I think he's trying to wait as long as he can to do the part on Cedar to see how the casino thing plays out, whether that gets built would have a huge effect on what goes there.
The Marketplace expansion itself is unexciting, but I guess that was what should have been expected of this expansion. I was just hoping to be surprised with a building facing Shiawassee and/or Cedar. It's still great to see another building downtown, especially a (somewhat) higher end residential building.
This is a great thing for downtown. I have been noticing that even on weekends there are people downtown, patronizing the businesses that are open. I think it is true that people these days like a real urban environment. It is so cool that he said all of his downtown properties are fully occupied, I am hoping this will lead to more developments. I was hoping they would choose a different color scheme, but the guy likes green and yellow!
I was thinking the same thing about the casino. The current drawings depict a large parking structure along Cedar?? The space next to the Lansing Center is not that large where are they going to put these things? I also think he will wait to build on that area
Once the Cedar Street properties are built, the rest of MarketPlace will lose a lot of street frontage for advertising etc. I think Gillespie is delaying Cedar St expansion until MarketPlace phase 1 and 2 are fully occupied, and might try to leverage their worth and occupancy to get a larger loan for the Cedar St property so he can build bigger.
This would allow the Cedar St building to peek over MarketPlace phase 1 and 2, so top floor occupants can still get a view of the river and skyline. They would also get a prime view of the baseball field.
A few pictures for the Gillespie Group's facebook page:
March 6
April 18
Really have to get pictures of this someday, but the second phase is topped out and they've started masonry work. Always love to see the masons doing their work. And while I think the other materials they use on this are kind of cheesy, the black brick work is spectacular. The brick is a short of modern callback to the dark bricks at the base of the old Ottawa Street Station across the river. I'd really like to see the Gillespie's use more of this quality brickwork in their projects.
I hadn't thought about that with the black brick but you are right. Whether intentional or by accident it's kind of a nice touch given the proximity.
I'd like to see them use more quality materials where it counts in general. There are some local architecture firms, that I wont name, that have this down despite so so deigns for the most part. I mean, look at the Lansing center for example. It's got some nice quality materials at the street side, lesser on the river side and then just cheap corrugated metal siding around the rest. It's possible to give a high end look economically.
At least they couldn't bid on City Hall! It'd be a multicolored mess.
I like the black brick too. Over on Michigan the "Avenue" building looks better than the drawings as well. I am growing use to the colorful sidings on these new buildings but if you get up close they do look kind of cheap. The "Skyvue" building comes to mind. I think they could use colored glazed bricks for color and it would look better. I am liking the colors more because I think they look better than all glass, and are an interesting addition to the landscape, just pick better colors. Is there going to be another building in the Market Place project fronting Cedar?
I'm not totally against even some of the crazier colors if they'd just use quality materials. Things like glass, ceramic or stone tiles; metal panels like on Knapps; or bricks that aren't just fancy cinder blocks.
@gbdinlansing I think it's a safe bet that there will be one or two buildings built facing Cedar. There were always buildings facing Cedar in the site plans for Market Place, but I don't think the current development matches up with those old site plans.