As much as I'm dissapointed this won't be downtown, I'm happy to finally see a large building go up in that park. It needs a big anchor tenant to help draw other companies. Even on an 11 acre parcel, I would expect the 100,000 sq feet to be on at least 3 floors, but more likely 4 or 5, if they use their land like most of these typ of places do.
yeah, I would expect the building to be around 3 floors tall. I believe much of the 11 acres will be left green with maybe some recreational areas as corporate headquarters like to have. Maybe an acre of parking, and about three acres for the building. That's my guess.
Bob let me know, today, that they haven't even started designing the building, yet, so this isn't as far along as I thought, but he is guessing the building will be about 4 floors. I'd earlier politely pur forward my disappointment about the announcement (i.e. that it wasn't a downtown announcement like I thought we were build to), and boy did he get defensive. I guess I should be more careful. lol
I also got additional information about the proposed CADL/Impression 5. Bob says that the city is only considering the Oliver Towers site. CADL, however, is being more careful, and has hired an architect to study more than one site. They will make a decision by June, apparently. The concept for the Oliver Towers site, though, would take up the entire block, meaning it will be sprawled across the site.
That's too bad that they are planning for the whole block. Maybe the fact that the city is only considering the Oliver Towers site shows that they are not willing to give it up to another proposal (whatever that may be....). I try and spin it to good news.
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Really, this whole idea of homeless apartments, it doesn't seem to work for me. I thought so many of the problems with projects (see Cabrini Green) is that the poverty spurs more poverty and crime. So making a whole building have strictly homeless apartments doesn't seem like great social planning. I know Oliver Towers is not Cabrini Green, but I feel there needs to be less dense housing for homeless apartments and more locations.
Why is it too bad? Whether they take up part of the site or the whole site, I'm just happy to hear about new development.
As for spreading around public housing, that's always been the ideology of the Lansing Housing Commission, and it's worked in Lansing very well. In fact, the was an article done in the City Pulse months ago about how Lansing was smart in spreading out its public housing, thus, not concentrating poverty.
These type of developments (libraries and museums) just don't produce things like that, so I don't expect anything tall. For me, the difference between 2 stories or 5 stories is really kind of irrelevant. If I know something isn't going to be a high-rise, I usually don't worry much about the difference of a few floors.
I wonder if he means it will occupy the whole block or just the Oliver Towers site? I assume he means just the Oliver Towers Site, and they would leave the Parking lot as is until there becomes a greater need to develop it, maybe into that new city hall...
Still though, there are some museums and many libraries that rise to respectable heights, for instance there is a "discovery center" museum (or something like that) on the East coast thats like 12 or 13 floors/ ~250' tall, its ultramodern, all glass and has lots of tall open space including a full height atrium.
Also, on the City councils meeting agenda:
"Introduction of Z-17-06; Part of 715 W. Willow, Petition for
Rezoning “B” Residential to “DM-1” Residential District filed by
LHC Nonprofit Development Corporation to allow for up to fifty
(50) units of senior citizen housing (former Michigan School for
the Blind property), and setting Public Hearing for March 12,
2007"
"Adoption of Z-16-2006; 200 Block of E. Grand River Ave.,
Petition for rezoning from ”F-1” Commercial to “G-1" Business
District filed by Richard Karp for the purpose of constructing a
new building containing a mix of commercial and residential
uses"
My first instinct was to think that this was the CSO work, but it doesn't really sound like it, maybe something to with one of the mystery projects???
"Electronic mail from Kathryn Meninga of Mishler & Meninga,
PLC regarding the proposed construction project at the corner
of Michigan Ave. and Washington Ave."
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Bob informed me that there are still downtown announcements waiting to happen, but would give me no timeframe.
I also got additional information about the proposed CADL/Impression 5. Bob says that the city is only considering the Oliver Towers site. CADL, however, is being more careful, and has hired an architect to study more than one site. They will make a decision by June, apparently. The concept for the Oliver Towers site, though, would take up the entire block, meaning it will be sprawled across the site.
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Really, this whole idea of homeless apartments, it doesn't seem to work for me. I thought so many of the problems with projects (see Cabrini Green) is that the poverty spurs more poverty and crime. So making a whole building have strictly homeless apartments doesn't seem like great social planning. I know Oliver Towers is not Cabrini Green, but I feel there needs to be less dense housing for homeless apartments and more locations.
As for spreading around public housing, that's always been the ideology of the Lansing Housing Commission, and it's worked in Lansing very well. In fact, the was an article done in the City Pulse months ago about how Lansing was smart in spreading out its public housing, thus, not concentrating poverty.
Still though, there are some museums and many libraries that rise to respectable heights, for instance there is a "discovery center" museum (or something like that) on the East coast thats like 12 or 13 floors/ ~250' tall, its ultramodern, all glass and has lots of tall open space including a full height atrium.
Also, on the City councils meeting agenda:
"Introduction of Z-17-06; Part of 715 W. Willow, Petition for
Rezoning “B” Residential to “DM-1” Residential District filed by
LHC Nonprofit Development Corporation to allow for up to fifty
(50) units of senior citizen housing (former Michigan School for
the Blind property), and setting Public Hearing for March 12,
2007"
"Adoption of Z-16-2006; 200 Block of E. Grand River Ave.,
Petition for rezoning from ”F-1” Commercial to “G-1" Business
District filed by Richard Karp for the purpose of constructing a
new building containing a mix of commercial and residential
uses"
My first instinct was to think that this was the CSO work, but it doesn't really sound like it, maybe something to with one of the mystery projects???
"Electronic mail from Kathryn Meninga of Mishler & Meninga,
PLC regarding the proposed construction project at the corner
of Michigan Ave. and Washington Ave."