I would almost like to see this get delayed for a year...and hopefully by then the economy will be starting to turn around and with pent up demand this could go back up to 18-20 floors...however, 12 is better than none, so I'll take what we can get.
I agree, it's better than nothing at all. I wonder what are the chances of new development projects to come up soon. Really would like to see the city improve... and be like a safe major city not only in Michigan, but the mid-west and the United States if it's likely. At least we are starting to see developments appear, and usually when developments are proposed the economic situation isnt improving ( or not?).
LMich, yeah, that's why I said 12 floors is better than none...I figured if demolition of those buildings and construction doesn't happen in the next 6 months or so, the project would probably never happen. If they started demolition in Feb./March, and construction started early summer, at what point would they be locked into the final height of the building? Can they increase it after groundbreaking, or is it finalized at that point?
I'm sure I'm looking the gift horse in the mouth at this point, with this economy I probably should just shut-up and be VERY happy if we even see 12 floors with this project.
I almost don't mind if this doesn't even happen. It's far from the best location for a highrise condo tower. My favorite location would be the lot at Grand & Michigan or the Grandview plaza. But there are many spots on Washington, Michigan and Grand that would make better sites than Capitol View, being so close to a 15 floor tower and only having street frontage on one side, the only advantage is the river. Don't get me wrong, I would still appreciate this project, but I hope it does stop other, bigger projects from being proposed in the future.
Hmm... I really can't say the best site for this project due to not seeing exactly all the locations downtown, so your point is probably debateable. Although with time, who knows... maybe another project would be place around there. I'm just glad they are bringing these projects in Lansing and not Grand Rapids, Ann Arbor, Detroit, because I'll be glad to see Lansing really improve. Perhaps it may stop me from always thinking about New York City ( don't get me wrong, I like the city lie and outdoors. I mean if you really think about it New York City has a lot of nature around it, including the Atlantic.). So it's about the best location I can imagen at the moment, and easy to describe in two sentences.
In Lansing. Located downtown.
The people who will wait that long are all the people in the Lansing area waiting for the first real condo tower to be built, whether it ends up being this one or not. At this point I really don't care if this project happens, because as I said before it will likely just make a larger, more impressive project possible. BTW I still think this will happen in some form, at least as long as our poor economic situation doesn't drag out for too long.
I remember there being $1 million in the stimulus wish list for Lansing for the Capitol Club project. If I remember correctly, it wasn't directly for the project, but was for fixing up the riverfront area in front of the proposed site. If that $1 million gets allocated, how much would that help the project move forward? Anyway, the indicators don't seem great, but knowing how much Bernero likes this project maybe he can push it forward. Also, in regards to Hood's comment, I think the uniqueness of the project (only condo tower) is the only thing that is keeping this even a possibility. Otherwise I think it would already be cancelled. I guess we'll just have to cross our fingers for the time being!
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I'm sure I'm looking the gift horse in the mouth at this point, with this economy I probably should just shut-up and be VERY happy if we even see 12 floors with this project.
@Coolbreeze: I think this already is a safe city. Not just in Michigan, but in the Midwest for sure...
In Lansing. Located downtown.